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side rails 1966 Sakonnet
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| GerryMiller |
Posted on 08/09/09 - 6:20 PM
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I am trying to find the specs for mounting the side rails on my 1966 Sakonnet. It is a project boat that I am trying to rejuvenate. I bought it disassembled and the original holes in the hull side have been filled. They don't match up with the fittings on the rails. If someone can give me the correct mounting specs, I would like to install them in the proper location. Is there wood embedded for mounting these? Thanks for any help.
Gerry
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| modenacart |
Posted on 08/09/09 - 6:25 PM
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Are you sure you matched them up correctly? My rails go on a specific side, they are not interchangeable. On mine the "short" end section goes forward.
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| modenacart |
Posted on 08/09/09 - 6:25 PM
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Failed to mention I have a 74 currituck soon to be montauk.
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| GerryMiller |
Posted on 08/09/09 - 8:09 PM
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modenacart wrote:
Are you sure you matched them up correctly? My rails go on a specific side, they are not interchangeable. On mine the "short" end section goes forward.
I will double check tomorrow. Thanks for your input.
Gerry
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| Jim R |
Posted on 08/09/09 - 8:35 PM
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Gerry,
I've got a '68 Sakonnet I'm restoring and I'll measure the original location of the side rail mounts tomorrow. There is wood behind them. I've got an old drawing that I'll check as well but I think the wood is 3/4" plywood about the size of an index card for each of the side mounts. The bottom mounts go into wood that runs up each side of the boat. I'll post some measurements by tomorrow afternoon and maybe they'll at least get you in the vicinity.
Jim
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| GerryMiller |
Posted on 08/09/09 - 8:36 PM
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Jim R wrote:
Gerry,
I've got a '68 Sakonnet I'm restoring and I'll measure the original location of the side rail mounts tomorrow. There is wood behind them. I've got an old drawing that I'll check as well but I think the wood is 3/4" plywood about the size of an index card for each of the side mounts. The bottom mounts go into wood that runs up each side of the boat. I'll post some measurements by tomorrow afternoon and maybe they'll at least get you in the vicinity.
Jim
That's great news, Jim! Thanks.
Gerry
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| modenacart |
Posted on 08/10/09 - 5:48 AM
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Gerry,
If you see the old holes you can use them for a guide on how high to do the side fixtures. There is a wood diagram in the download sections also. The measurements for mine are as follows:
The aft rail base is about 3.5 inches from transom. The side fixtures are all between 1 and 0.75 inches from top.
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| GerryMiller |
Posted on 08/10/09 - 12:58 PM
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modenacart wrote:
Gerry,
If you see the old holes you can use them for a guide on how high to do the side fixtures. There is a wood diagram in the download sections also. The measurements for mine are as follows:
The aft rail base is about 3.5 inches from transom. The side fixtures are all between 1 and 0.75 inches from top.
OK, Thanks for that info. The original holes have been covered by filler and primer. Your measurements are sure to help.
Gerry
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| modenacart |
Posted on 08/10/09 - 1:25 PM
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I plan on sanding my hull down, so I just sanded in the area I though they would be and found them.
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| Jim R |
Posted on 08/10/09 - 5:46 PM
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Gerry,
My Sakonnet had the side rails mounted as follows:
Measuring from the inside of the transom, the aftermost vertical rail base is mounted at 4.5". From there, the next is at 34.5", followed by 65.5" and finally the forward most base is located at 87.5". I just laid the tape along the whole ledge to get these measurements.
The standoffs for each vertical rail are mounted 1" to 1-1/4" below the cap. They are all a little different but within that range.
These measurements were virtually the same on both sides. There may have been a 16th of an inch difference here and there, but mostly negligible. There is 3/4" thick wood backing about 3" X 5" behind each of the standoffs so there should be room to play with. I had to drill out each screw hole with a 3/8" forstner bit and glue in mahogany plugs. The wood wasn't rotted, but the holes were wallowed out.
I hope this helps. I'd post the wood drawing that I have but it is hardly legible. It gives me a headache just to look at it. It does seem pretty close to the newer wood locating diagram for the 17s located on WC.
Good Luck!
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| GerryMiller |
Posted on 08/10/09 - 8:30 PM
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Jim R wrote:
Gerry,
My Sakonnet had the side rails mounted as follows:
Measuring from the inside of the transom, the aftermost vertical rail base is mounted at 4.5". From there, the next is at 34.5", followed by 65.5" and finally the forward most base is located at 87.5". I just laid the tape along the whole ledge to get these measurements.
The standoffs for each vertical rail are mounted 1" to 1-1/4" below the cap. They are all a little different but within that range.
These measurements were virtually the same on both sides. There may have been a 16th of an inch difference here and there, but mostly negligible. There is 3/4" thick wood backing about 3" X 5" behind each of the standoffs so there should be room to play with. I had to drill out each screw hole with a 3/8" forstner bit and glue in mahogany plugs. The wood wasn't rotted, but the holes were wallowed out.
I hope this helps. I'd post the wood drawing that I have but it is hardly legible. It gives me a headache just to look at it. It does seem pretty close to the newer wood locating diagram for the 17s located on WC.
Good Luck!
This info is really appreciated. It is going to make my job much easier. Also, as you suggest, the backing blocks are big enough that I don't have to be right on. Great tip on the mahogany plugs.
Thanks much,
Gerry
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| GerryMiller |
Posted on 08/10/09 - 8:33 PM
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Thanks to all for the needed info. You would think that after spending 7 years finishing off a 36' sailboat that this little whaler redo would be duck soup. Not so. They all have their secrets.
Gerry
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