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1973 19'4" Outrage Rehab
sraab928
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Posted on 07/25/08 - 9:32 AM
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Hey Rob,

Well she has been sitting with the buckets under the holes since the beginning of July. I would say the front bucket (5 gallon size) has about an inch of water in it... The rear not enough to coat the bottom. We are leaving next week for a 3 week hiatus in the RV so I really didnt want to do much before then. I figured I would just let is sit and drain for a bit. I will try and pull the gas tank floor up early next week before I leave. I have been derigging the console this week - what a mess of unused wires that was!

Thanks for checking in! I too have been keeping tabs on yours - Looks like you are way ahead of me at this point.



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Enjoy your vacation - (RV+Gas=$$$). I would not say I am way ahead. I did go to Gulf Coast Boats this week and have them building my tunnel. It should be ready next week but I will be down at the coast in our new place. I really need to flip mine and start working on stripping it down. I have been playing with the console and letting mine sit to dry out. I want to get along with the glass work so I can move on to something that resembles forward progress not ripping out. Wink


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Hey Scott,
If in doubt, You can always carefully open her up..and reseal her later.
I am glad that I did and am studying to open her up again at the bait well.
I'll see.
Hopefully the gas prices won't rise up while you are traveling.Angry

Cheers,Cool



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Thanks guys... I for one am not worrying about gas prices... I am in it for the fun... the rest will fall in place. I have boated more this year then ever and the RV well its just one of lifes pleasures for me.


Edited by sraab928 on 09/23/08 - 5:57 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqLG7b...qLG7bVA-dk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fyS5C...fyS5CLBgyM


Edited by Jeff on 07/25/08 - 4:56 PM
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LMAO Jeff. thank for that ..

There is always this scene from RV....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faUBbz...aUBbz_EncE



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Posted on 07/26/08 - 5:29 AM
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Scott - I can see now that you have way to many toys! That is one fine RV -- Do you need a pilots license to drive that thing? Shock


Rob
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Thanks Rob, no special license.... crazy I know. Im basically one of those guys... if it has a motor - I'm in!


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Hello from Sunny Florida everyone! I did get some work done on the Outrage the day before we left - I felt I needed to keep up with Rob and Serge! Now I have three weeks to plan my attack when I return!

Got the 13 and 19 parts back from Frankford plating.... They look great!
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0729081248_t1.jpg[/img]

I Pulled the Rubrail and Receiver off.... Man it was dirty and buggy behind there!
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0730081136a_t1.jpg[/img]

Pulled the floor up over the gas tank and vent line.....
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0730081513_t1.jpg[/img]

The tank was sitting in water - This boat has been inside for quite some time and there is still alot of water around the tank...
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0730081507_t1.jpg[/img]

Well thats it for now..... Time to relax on vacation... I will be checking in though.


Edited by Joe Kriz on 09/24/08 - 11:40 AM
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I think that you are getting in the feel of things now...and there is no turning back.
It will feel good to make things right again.
Yea, I've had a look at your starboard transom section and the gap looks suspiciously familiar. Have a look at the aluminum bracket holding the cap to the hull. I bet that the fasteners have come adrift. Yo will have to clean and reset in place. notice the clamp on my port section.
Your tank should have had a small amount of foam bordering it.It is possible that your tank has been replaced already. I would pull it out ,inspect the surfaces and put a protective coating before resetting it to use.
It is to be noted that my hull doesn't have this tunnel seen on the top left area of your tank hold..
Good work Scott.
PS- I wonder how Rob is fearing with his project..Smile


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Ok its been a while and I am back from vacation - Finally got to put some work into her this week. First thing I accomplished was pulling the tank out.

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/outrage003_t1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/outrage004_t1.jpg[/img]

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I then cut two holes to inspect the foam for water - I found that the foam overall was dry - There is some water at the very bottom - about 1/4" of saturation at both the front of the fuel tank well and the rear. - Both areas had discolored foam at the top where it met the fiberglass as well - but the areas in between seem dry.

[IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0903081508a_t1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0903081508_t1.jpg[/IMG]

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0903081634_t1.jpg[/img]
For some reason I forgot to take a picture of the big area cleaned out - I will do that tomorrow.


Well thats it for now - I have been stripping all the hardware off the hull and console - removing the wood etc. My plan is to have the boat ready for fiberglass work with a few weeks. I plan on leaving the areas open as long as I can to dry out as much as possible.


Edited by sraab928 on 09/25/08 - 4:18 AM
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Hey, Scott,

Don't you feel good about knowing that your foam has little water contamination?
I would tilt the bow up as much as possible and see if you have some water migrating to the low stern area.I have removed a few cups of drippings by drilling a 1/2" hole by the stern bottom.
The rear through hull drain tube was practically eroded on the wet side.Also your stern gaping section could be a part of the problem.
You are doing just great!
If all goes well your refit should go smoothly.
Fantastic work Scott, wish I was there to help.Cool


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ritzyrags wrote:
Fantastic work Scott, wish I was there to help.Cool


Thanks Serge, I wish you were here to help too!


Scott
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Wow - You guys are motivated. I am falling way behind as I spent most of August fishing and hanging at the new beach house. Oh well? I did get my tunnel from Gulf Coast boats a few weeks back. My father picked it up in Houston and brought it to me at the beach when they came to visit one weekend. It looks great -- now I just need to have it put in. By the way Scott, I agree with Serge on the tank. It has definitely been pulled before. Did you ever figure out if it was replaced? Just a good tip I saw here once -- write in Sharpie the date and work done on top of your tank (ie.. hoses replaced, tested, for leaks, etc...) Next time it is opened there will be a record for you or the next owner.


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Hey Rob - good to hear from you - glad you are enjoying your summer!

I believe the tank was pulled - not sure it was replaced though - I plan on putting a new tank in - I've come this far - no point in putting something questionable back in - I do have some concerns with the way the vent line is run - It really seems to be the source of water intake into the cavity - I will need to give it some more thought -

I know I will be adding some sort of drain to the rear of the cavity as well - I don't want water problems anymore.

Thanks for the tip on writing it down on the tank - its a great idea...




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By the way -- how did you like digging the foam out? Is that not just a royal pain in the ass! I picked up a few tricks from the local boat guy. A wire brush on a drill will cut that stuff like butter. I used a dowel cut-off saw which is very thin and flexible to cut out chunks. Then I would follow up with the wire brush to really cut out the stuff left and clean up the glass underneath. I had even thought about a making a foam cutting wire to speed things up. I read that bad toxins are released when you cut this kind of foam.


Edited by Blue_Northern on 09/04/08 - 11:03 AM
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Believe it or not I pried it out bit by bit with a 2" wide putty knife. No fun at all. I have many cuts and bruises to prove it - In the one picture of the round hole you can actually see my blood to the right side of the hole.

I would not want to think about doing any area larger than already have. Oh yeah and the smell when you get to the wet area.... or when you pull the gas tank floor up for the first time... well lets just say that gives the sewer a run for its money.



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Here is the pic I promised early - The cutout section in the rear of the gas tank cavity all cleaned out of foam.

[IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0904081619_t1.jpg[/IMG]


Edited by Joe Kriz on 09/24/08 - 11:42 AM
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Oooooooo that smell - can't you smell that smell. I still have a real recollection of that odor. It may never go away.


Rob
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Scott,
She's looking GREAT!
I need to catch up with you guys.Great detailed work!

Best Regards,
Richard

 
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