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Confirming Guardian Model
mds235
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Posted on 01/03/23 - 8:29 AM
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Hi all, I am looking to buy a 1984 Outrage that the seller says is a Guardian edition. Is it possible to confirm whether the boat is a Guardian edition by the HID? If not, is there certain tell-tale signs that the boat is a Guardian?
The HID is: BWC7311AM84i

Thanks in advance. Looking forward to joining the BW community!

 
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Posted on 01/03/23 - 9:57 AM
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The HIN confirms model year.

To identify the boat as a Guardian model, a few photos would help. Specifically it is the railings, console and seating that are easy indicators.

Can you post or drop a link to photos?


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Posted on 01/03/23 - 12:53 PM
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Thanks for the reply. The boat definitely has 'Outrage' spelled out on the hull, not Guardian, however, some of the components appear to be beefed up. For instance the gunwale tops do not have wood; however, I am not sure if the wood inserts were removed and covered with EVA foam sheets (which is a little concerning but may also be used as negotiation leverage).

Below is a OneDrive share link to some photos of the boat. Notice the stern rails and metal plate on the front of the console.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AhH6Y2SCwdD2rweNFBNL3O8_Gwtg?e=1W5IDb


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Posted on 01/03/23 - 12:54 PM
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And here is another photo...


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Posted on 01/03/23 - 2:15 PM
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Note a Guardian was a truly custom order. A customer could select from an extensive list of choices for Console, rails, gunnel caps, rub rails, tow bars, engines, electronics etc.

The railing is a CPD/BCPD Guardian option.

The console is the standard Outrage/Montauk console.

The leaning post is an aftermarket Todd post.

As for the foam...yuck.


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1992 Outrage 17 I
2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+
2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
 
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Posted on 01/03/23 - 3:02 PM
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Awesome! Thanks for the info. So there’s a chance its a Guardian. It’s a shame there isn’t a way to truly confirm it’s a Guardian model.

I’ve read somewhere that the Guardian hulls should have a red dot imbedded in the gelcoat, near the BW logo. This boat doesn’t appear to have the dot.

 
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Posted on 01/03/23 - 4:11 PM
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I recall it is the Workboat that has the red dot. They were the 1st generation of heavy duty/commercial boats, prior to the establishment of CPD, BWCPD.


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