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repower 1962 Currituck
jmbreitinger
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Posted on 07/28/21 - 5:58 AM
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I am repowering my 1962 Currituck. I know that the hull is rated for up to 100hp. It has a 60 hp two-stroke Evinrude that felt about right (when it was running). I have had a lot of trouble with this motor and am putting a new four-stroke on. I have a 50 hp Yamaha ready to go on. Of the motors I found in stock, this seems like the best value. Am I going to regret not putting a bigger motor on?

I use this boat as a runabout on a small freshwater lake in northern WI. A couple of times a year, I trailer it to other lakes for fishing. I will do more of that with a reliable motor that can troll slow.

I have 16 - 21-year old kids starting to use the boat and definitely don't want to have it be over-powered.

I also have a classic Master Craft ProStar 190 for pulling the kids on skis so I don't need to use the whaler for that.

I welcome opinions.


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It's your pocket book but the Yamaha 70 only weighs 5 lbs more and the extra 20hp would be there if needed.
https://www.whalercentral.com/article...ticle_id=5

 
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I would install the 50hp in the short term.

The F70 is the lightest in it's class and is a very good choice for the classic 16' hulls. I would go with the F70.

Be prepared for a backorder of 5-8 months.


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Thanks for the input. They have an F70 in stock so, after reflecting, reading, and hearing the same thing from everyone I asked, I am spending the extra $1,600.

 
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Just so everyone is up-to-date on the new name changes from Yamaha, the "F" has been dropped from their description.

Yamaha 70 hp. etc. (again, no F in any of their lineup)
https://yamahaoutboards.com/en-us/hom...0-hp/70-50

I don't think you will ever regret going with the extra hp. The Yamaha 70 hp has a great reputation and low weight.

 
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If anything Yamaha marketing are being less than clear.


...Available on the F70, F60 and F50.


Not a surprise as marketing departments in the marine industry are rife with inconsistencies in naming conventions.

Personally I prefer everyone to refer to their Four Stroke Yamaha 70, 90 etc as an Fxxx so I can know it is not a classic 2 stroke. There are still many owners running these engines as well.


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John -

Be careful with the new engine pricing.

Many dealers have added serious markup for any engines they have in the pipeline or if they are lucky enough to have one in a crate. The inventory shortages are the worst I have seen in my lifetime and some are being quite greedy.

An F70 should cost <= $8000.

Labor to de-rig old engine and associated harnesses, gauges etc and install all new should be ~5 hrs of labor (no more than $150/hr).

Ignition, network harnesses, throttle/shift cables, binnacle, a mulitfunction gauge, keyswitch with lanyard and a Yamaha painted stainless steel prop in 13 x 17" ~1200.

A totaled, the engine installed should run you no more than $9500. Tax included.

P.S. Engine should be mounted 2 holes up regardless of what they say. If the current engine is all the way down using the blind holes, have them fill the bottom holes with wood plugs and epoxy and drill new lower holes following the BIA pattern. Add 2 hrs labor for this.


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Apparently Yamaha has not changed all their documents yet or standardized them to call by the same description.

Maybe it is a pandemic?


 
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Phil T wrote:
John -

Be careful with the new engine pricing.

Many dealers have added serious markup for any engines they have in the pipeline or if they are lucky enough to have one in a crate. The inventory shortages are the worst I have seen in my lifetime and some are being quite greedy.

An F70 should cost <= $8000.

Labor to de-rig old engine and associated harnesses, gauges etc and install all new should be ~5 hrs of labor (no more than $150/hr).

Ignition, network harnesses, throttle/shift cables, binnacle, a mulitfunction gauge, keyswitch with lanyard and a Yamaha painted stainless steel prop in 13 x 17" ~1200.

A totaled, the engine installed should run you no more than $9500. Tax included.

P.S. Engine should be mounted 2 holes up regardless of what they say. If the current engine is all the way down using the blind holes, have them fill the bottom holes with wood plugs and epoxy and drill new lower holes following the BIA pattern. Add 2 hrs labor for this.


Thanks for the info on mounting. I REALLY apreciate this.

I am paying $8,400 for the motor and $1,400 for the rigging so close to your estimate. They have a good stock of all of these motors and are a solid reputable shop. I am generally not one to buy new but have not really been able to reliably use my boat for so damned long that I am biting the bullet. A big motivation is wanting to get the kids going too and to start exploring some new water.

Oddly, for about the same money, my partner and I are getting a new corvette engine and interior for our 20-year-old inboard ski boat.

 
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The motor price is high. That is the price of a F90.


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