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repower 13 super sport 1990 with e-tec 40
cajunwhaler502	#1  Posted on 10/26/10 - 6:31 AM
Member Posts: 13 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/20/10	does anyone know or have a 13 ft super sport with an evinrude e-tec 40hp , i have heard that these are a lil lighter than some of the other outboards? i am looking to repower...
jharrell	#2  Posted on 10/26/10 - 6:42 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 77 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/26/09	In the 40hp range the E-Tec is very heavy for a 13' at 240lbs. When I had my 13' and was looking to repower I came to the conclusion the E-Tec 30hp at 177lbs was the better choice for a repower. The E-tec 30 looked like it would have nearly identical performance to my old 40hp mariner it was going to replace. Suzuki now has a revised 40hp 4-stroke that is 229lbs that looks interesting, but still a little heavy.
Mr Whaler	#3  Posted on 10/26/10 - 7:08 AM
Member Posts: 61 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/21/08	Hey, my 13' has a tohatsu 40hp. The 2-stroke has 3 cylinders, 3 carbs, it auto-mixes oil, has electric t/t, electric start, is quiet, and has a lot of power. I believe it weighs 158 pounds. I dont know if you're a two or four stroke person but this is a great all around outboard. Rob 1969 13' - 2001 Tohatsu 40hp More Boats than Brains
cajunwhaler502	#4  Posted on 10/26/10 - 8:59 AM
Member Posts: 13 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/20/10	mr. whaler how is the fuel consumtion for the tohatsu i never had experience with them i had very good luck with 2 stroke yamahas and e-tecs on my bigger boats the etec looks like its the one but there is always room for change
thegage	#5  Posted on 10/26/10 - 10:01 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 341 Comments: 1 Joined: 06/25/09	Mr Whaler wrote: Hey, my 13' has a tohatsu 40hp. The 2-stroke has 3 cylinders, 3 carbs, it auto-mixes oil, has electric t/t, electric start, is quiet, and has a lot of power. I believe it weighs 158 pounds. I dont know if you're a two or four stroke person but this is a great all around outboard. The specs I find list the weight as something more like 208 lbs. for the long shaft, though that's still about 30 lbs. less than the E-TEC 40. The E-TEC does have a larger displacement (864cc vs. 697cc). John K.
Joe Kriz	#6  Posted on 10/26/10 - 10:31 AM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Take a look at our article on "Current Engine Choices and Weight" http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=78 The E-Tec 40hp is a long shaft at 240 pounds and is CARB 3 rated. The Tohatsu 40hp is a Short shaft at 206 pounds and is 'NOT' CARB 3 rated. You will need to add a few pounds to the total weight when adding the long shaft version.
cajunwhaler502	#7  Posted on 10/26/10 - 10:46 AM
Member Posts: 13 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/20/10	what exactly is CARB 3 ?
Joe Kriz	#8  Posted on 10/26/10 - 10:51 AM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	California Air Resources Board. Many states are following California to clean up the environment. Automobiles have the SMOG check to reduce pollutants. Outboard motors now also have to be clean in California.
tom blinstrub	#9  Posted on 10/26/10 - 11:32 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 369 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/14/09	Joe Kris, The newer tohatsu/nissan tldi 40-50-70 and 90 hp engines have two stars on the side of the engine and say something like very clean emissions. The E-tec's are carb 3 rated. Does that mean they have three stars ? Would they allow us to use the newer tohatsu's in california ? My 50 and 90 tohatsu tldi burn so clean that they don't smoke when I winterize them with 50 to 1 mixture and fogging oil in the tank I use to winterize them. Thanks Tom B. Great website your got here , I have learned a lot.
Joe Kriz	#10  Posted on 10/26/10 - 12:07 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Some engines are only CARB 2 rated which isn't as clean as CARB 3 rating. Some California waters require CARB 3 rating as far as I know. I am not positive about buying new engines with CARB 2 rating in California but why would we? We still wouldn't be able to launch the boat in some of our waters. That is one reason I suggest that everyone buys a CARB 3 rated motor. No telling when any other state might change their laws. How would anyone like it if they bought a brand new CARB 2 rated motor this year only to find out next year the lake where you take your boat won't let you launch because they changed their regulations to only allow CARB 3 rated motors on the lake? That certainly wouldn't be good.
dburton	#11  Posted on 10/26/10 - 8:03 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 77 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/13/05	If you want to e-tec then the 30hp is the way to go. The 40hp is just too heavy. Don't discount what the dealer brings to the equation. If the best dealer in your area is a Yamaha or Mercury take the time to look at those options. That being said a 30hp e-tec with tilt and trim will be outstanding. I love 13' Whalers. I am on my second and wish I never sold my first. If you go somewhere for the weekend and have only a slim chance of getting on the water, you take your 13' because it tows so well, it is never a big deal, you can maneuver it in a hotel parking lot by hand and if you don't make it on the water it isn't a big deal. I'd rather have a boat ready to go but can't than can and have no boat. Live long and prosper and have a 13'foot Whaler even if you have a bigger boat!
thegage	#12  Posted on 10/26/10 - 8:20 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 341 Comments: 1 Joined: 06/25/09	The 30 seems just right for me, but some people do like to hang as much HP as possible. John K. John Kittredge 1991 16 SL - 2013 E-TEC 90
tom blinstrub	#13  Posted on 10/27/10 - 11:33 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 369 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/14/09	The jump in weight from 30 to 40 e-tec is quite a bit. If you were going to buy the 40 e-tec you might as well put the 50 or 60 e-tec on there as they weigh the same. In fact there 65 e-tec commercial motor can shave 5 pounds off the 240 because it's manual start and with no battery can you save another 30 pounds. How close to full throttle would you dare push a rig like that. Hopefully in a few years the weights will come down on 25 to 40 hp engines. I miss the good old days where a 35 evinrude manual start weighed 114 and manual start merc 50 was 177 just like the new 30 e-tec. Ten years ago tohatsu made a short shaft manual start 50 that weighed just over 150 pounds. Buy the 30 e-tec and move the battery and fuel foreward to balance it , Good luck
Mr Whaler	#14  Posted on 10/27/10 - 4:30 PM
Member Posts: 61 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/21/08	I'd burn maybe 6-8 gallons in a solid day with a lot of zipping around. This is high RPM's too. and I saw 158lbs online for the short-shaft model, but i thought that was a little low. Rob 1969 13' - 2001 Tohatsu 40hp More Boats than Brains
Geo	#15  Posted on 10/27/10 - 4:43 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 104 Comments: 4 Joined: 11/05/08	Since the Tohatsu 40 h.p. is similar in weight to the Tohatsu 50 h.p. why not just go with the 50 h.p.? I am using a Yamaha 2 stroke 50 h.p. on my 13' 1970 Whaler, and it is a great fit. With several people in the boat, you still have enough power.
tom blinstrub	#16  Posted on 10/28/10 - 6:11 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 369 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/14/09	Mr Whaler , you are not wrong about the weight of your motor, However you have the older three carb model. The newer 40 and 50 tohatsu models are fuel injected and somehow they gained 50 pounds. Im still kicking myself for not buying the manual start 50 like yours which weighed 152? pounds and didn't need the 30 pound battery.Now the 25 and 30 hp tohatsu 4 stroke weighs 177. Bigger boats can handle the extra weight better but the 13's handling is affected when it's choppy and if you leave it at the dock with the plug out it will have much more water in it then if you had a 100 lb. engine on it. My 13' will have an inch of water in it at the stern with my small engine. It's great to know no matter how much it rained that I don't have to worry about a bilge pump.