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Drain plug on floor not sealing. Taking on water.
dredey
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Posted on 07/27/10 - 4:42 PM
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Well today my new old boat has begun to take water. The plug on the floor seems to have lost it's muster. The plug itself has to be old. It's the only plug the previous owner had and he hasen't had the boat in the water for a few years. It was mored for a day by me and took some water. Trailored it home and put back in today and instantly you could see water filling up from the floor plug.. We brought it back in adjusted the plug and still the same thing. We noticed after taking the plug out and sticking our finger in the hole the hole itself is oblong or uneven inside. My buddy suggested sealing the whole permanately. Any suggestions? Are there any plugs that work better than others. I have an old beat up 71' or earlier hull with a decent motor. I just want to ride out the rest of this summer and possibly get a better boat and put this motor on it. But for now the drain hole is a major problem. Any suggestions?

Andre'


Edited by dredey on 07/27/10 - 4:43 PM
 
Joe Kriz
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And what type of boat might you be talking about?

 
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71' 13 ft whaler. Sorry. Any plugs work better than others?


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So you have 2 drains.

One in the splashwell and one in the transom.
Where do you put the drain plug?

Or do you plug them both up.
Whatever you do, I always... always... carry a spare drain plug or 2 in my tackle box.
Drain plugs are cheap so have at least one extra.

Either the screw type or the lever type. Whichever you prefer.

 
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The transom plug fills. Alot. The hole itself is shaped not exactly round and smooth inside. We noticed after taking out the plug and feeling inside the hole.

 
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I never plugged the transom drain when I had my 13' unless I wanted to keep fish in there temporarily.

I generally only plugged the splashwell drain.

 
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My mistake. It's the splashwell drain that's not plugged and the hole is not exactly round and flush inside the hole. The hole on the floor not near the motor in back.

 
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By all means buy another plug or try another plug in it, but under no condition whatsoever would I plug the hole permanantly! You will take on water at times and I would imagine that some time or another you will wash it. You will need a drain to get the water out of the boat.


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dredey
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I will buy another plug and hope that does the trick. I will let you know the outcome. Thanks.

 
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A picture might help a great deal in this situation. The new plug suggestions are on the money. An old plug may lack the resilience to seal... especially if the hole is out of round.

The out of round hole makes me wonder if someone might have damaged the drain in an attempt to seal one that had developed a leak.

Send a picture....

 
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fishinliar wrote:
Out of round ?
Is the brass tube rotted ?


Is there even any brass left? If not, that could explain the problem.

 
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Posted on 07/27/10 - 7:28 PM
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http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad83/dredey12/hole/newoldbostonwhalerjuly192010boys-13.jpg

 
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Drain opening and surrounding area appear pretty 'battered'. I'll venture that if you take the boat out of water, insert the plug and fill the drain sump with water... you'll see water leaks from around the drain hole. The brass tube is no longer sealed. Water may be leaking into the hull.

Check the extensive resources here related to repairs for this.

 
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Posted on 07/28/10 - 4:22 AM
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I'm going to call around and see if I can have it fixed. Is that possible at a reasonable cost?

 
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You can replace it yourself if you want, I fixed mine through the help and support of members on W/C and it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. I would have never attempted it by myself.


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Yes but doesn't the tool itself cost like a hundred bucks? The marina near me said they can do it for $85

 
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I think the tool is most likely 40 dollar or so. If you are doing just one, it might be worth it just to pay a marina due to the amount of time it might take you to get it right.


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I went with PVC, it was easier and inexpensive for me.


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Posted on 07/30/10 - 8:21 AM
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Well it looks like I am SOL guys. The marina who looked at the drain hole could not intall the copper due to extensive fiberglass damage. It's damaged beyond repair. Apparently who ever the previous owner was drilled the hole out and damaged it very badly. So I am SOL.


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dredey. I don't think you're SOL and I hope you're not disheartened by what he said. There are several threads on "Drain tube replacement" on this site. You may have to go ahead and replace that copper tube with a PVC tube and fiberglas it in. Unless you have a HUGE gaping hole in your boat, you're seldom SOL.....it's just going to take a little fiberglassing effort on your part or someone you're paying to do the work.

I think your marina guy is just being lazy. Just my $.02.


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