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1973 19'4" Outrage Rehab
sraab928	#1  Posted on 06/04/08 - 4:49 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Well I decided I should start a thread to address whats going on with the project and to get answers to questions that come up. See my Project Gallery Album here Here she is as I picked her up. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum_3/useralbum_29/040108104_t1.jpg[/img] I got the motors running and have sent the motor covers out for paint... Like the trashbag covers? [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum_3/useralbum_29/0530081408_t1.jpg[/img] Then I started to strip the bottom paint off starting with the transom. Once I got into it I realized that there were many holes over the years for different motors and transducers. There is also a patch to the left of the drain hole which is starting to fail. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum_3/useralbum_29/0604081405_t1.jpg[/img] The drain tube that runs from the rear fish box to the transom is toast which has caused some wet foam and wood. There was only about 2" of tube left and it appears that there should be about 6". I have the orings and tool on order through Twin Cities - Sue is great by the way! I already have the tubing so Im ready to follow Tom's tutorial. I think I am going to sleeve it with PVC first like I did on my Grady. That way if the orings ever fail they wont get the wood wet. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum_3/useralbum_29/0604081522_t1.jpg[/img] The only other question at this point is the top of the transom - There is this lip all the way accross that looks green. I think its supposed to be that way but just want to be sure. I will keep everyone posted as I progress. My current plans are to patch up the blisters and transom, replace the through hulls and then drop her in for a test run before going any further. Comments are welcome and suggestions and advice would be much appreciated. Thanks guys Scott Edited by Joe Kriz on 06/13/09 - 11:57 AM Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
Blue_Northern	#2  Posted on 06/05/08 - 8:33 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 532 Comments: 5 Joined: 09/04/07	Scott -- Looks like you are having a great time. I have never seen anything like those blisters you have -- are those contagious? The green line on top of the transom is factory and looks pretty good in the pictures you showed. I common problem here is splitting and such but yours looks good. Rob 1973 Outrage/Lo-Pro Conversion
sraab928	#3  Posted on 06/05/08 - 8:52 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Thanks Rob. The green line is in nice shape all things considered. I am guessing blisters -- When I hit that area with the power washer white specks started shooting off. I assume maybe water got behind the gel in that area? Its not all the way down as you can see so I am a bit confused... realize that doesn't take much..lol Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
Jeff	#4  Posted on 06/05/08 - 10:47 AM
Member Posts: 1987 Comments: 34 Joined: 04/02/05	Scott, You decided to keep the boat? Good for you. I think you will be very happy with it once finished and refitted. 1993 23' Walkaround Whaler Drive
sraab928	#5  Posted on 06/05/08 - 11:06 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Jeff, Yeah I decided to hang on to her. I started doing some work for the sale and remembered why I bought it in the first place. I will get her right. It will take time but I think it will time well spent. What do you think of those "blisters"? Do you think thats what it is or something else? Also did you get anywhere with the red rub rail. My contact has not gotten back to me. Thanks! Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
Binkie	#6  Posted on 06/05/08 - 2:32 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	If you are sleeving the drain tube holes with PVC, to keep moisture out of the hull, I don`t see the need to resleeve them again with brass. When I did the drain tubes on my 13 footer, I just used PVC, and epoxied them in, and they are forever. No need for brass. They`re is a diameter of PVC that matches the drain plug exactly, and will hold it tight. rich
Binkie	#7  Posted on 06/05/08 - 2:34 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	If you are sleeving the drain tube holes with PVC, to keep moisture out of the hull, I don`t see the need to resleeve them again with brass. When I did the drain tubes on my 13 footer, I just used PVC, and epoxied them in, and they are forever. No need for brass. They`re is a diameter of PVC that matches the drain plug exactly, and will hold it tight. rich
Bob Kemmler JR	#8  Posted on 06/05/08 - 3:28 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 269 Comments: 7 Joined: 10/10/05	Scott if you pull the drain for thee anchor locker, snap some pics and get some dimensions for me please. When I do (or have done by someone else) the glass work on my gunnels, I am going to have a factory outrage anchor locker grafted in my bow area and will need that drain tube/fitting. Glad your keeping the boat too, it will be ideal after you move down here. On the hunt for a classic 19 or 21 Whaler
sraab928	#9  Posted on 06/05/08 - 5:30 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Binkie, Thanks for the tip. I really didnt think about it that way. When I did the Grady I was installing those flapper type of scuppers. I still think I may stick with the brass through the pvc for the proper look of the above waterline drains. Do you have any pics of your install of them? Does the pvc discolor? Bob, I will be pulling that drain as the plastic part on the outside of the hull is broken off. I will take pics of the locker for you and measure it up next week. Your right it will the perfect boat for down there! Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
sraab928	#10  Posted on 06/05/08 - 5:36 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Ok boys - here is where I am at today. I got the rest of the paint off the sides and transom. I then sanded it to remove the residue. The starboard side came up pretty good. [IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0605081502_t1.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0605081654_t1.jpg[/IMG] The port side - the one with the "blisters" had areas under the paint that had been sanded down to the green at some point. Im thinking based on the condition of that side of the boat that maybe it got more sun exposure. There are more cracks in the gel on that side and its the only area that has the divots. [IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0605081648_t1.jpg[/IMG] Here is an overall shot. [IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0604081613_t1.jpg[/IMG] Well thats about it for now..... Heading down the shore for the weekend. Wont be back to it till early next week. The motor covers should be back from the painter by then too!! Edited by Joe Kriz on 09/23/08 - 6:32 PM Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
Yiger	#11  Posted on 06/05/08 - 5:49 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 122 Comments: 1 Joined: 12/03/07	Scott, I had similar blisters in my gelcoat, though it didn't matter much since all the gelcoat was taken off anyway. Before I ground off all the gel, some of the blisters were visible as they are in your pictures, and others were still loosely covered with flaking gelcoat. Here's the bad news... I found even more during the grinding process that weren't visible at all. I'm not trying to be the bearer of bad news, but those blisters might be more extensive that what you see now. Looks like a fun project though, keep posting! Jeff
sraab928	#12  Posted on 06/05/08 - 6:04 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Thanks Jeff. It seems the pressure washer is what brings them up. Im thinking when it comes time to strip the rest of the bottom Im gonna go soda blast. My last soda blast experience was not fun but I got a good recommendation on another guy I want to try. When all is said and done the whole boat will need to be re gelcoated or awlgripped. What are you doing with yours? Paint or Gel? Have you cleaned up that dust yet?...lol Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
RLwhaler	#13  Posted on 06/05/08 - 11:04 PM
Member Posts: 53 Comments: 4 Joined: 09/21/05	Scott, Your hard work is starting to show.She looks GREAT ! Thanks for for sharing. Best Regards, Richard
sraab928	#14  Posted on 06/06/08 - 3:05 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Thanks Richard. Its truly a labor of love. Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
sraab928	#15  Posted on 06/11/08 - 8:31 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	Well I had to move her inside as the weather here has been unbearable hot. Cant seem to catch a break with weather. I have pulled all the transom through hulls... or at least what was left of them and the transom wood seems very wet. It doesn't seem soft just wet... I have fans blowing through each of the three holes to see if it will dry out at all. If the wood is still solid should I worry about this? Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
Phil T	#16  Posted on 06/11/08 - 11:25 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 6991 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Would putting her back outside help drying her out? 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
sraab928	#17  Posted on 06/11/08 - 12:10 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	It might - but it seems every time I put her outside - which is hard as it gets blocked in - we have rain or something that makes it futile. Im just hoping that is will dry ok and not be damaged. I would hate to rip the transom out of this thing. Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
sraab928	#18  Posted on 06/11/08 - 4:24 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	I did drill a 1/2 hole in the bottom - just ahead of the wood - The foam there was dry... really surprised me how dry it was. The holes in the wood of the transom reveal wet wood in different areas... This concerns me... No pics of this as it was too hard to get. Edited by sraab928 on 09/23/08 - 5:50 PM Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
Yiger	#19  Posted on 06/11/08 - 6:25 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 122 Comments: 1 Joined: 12/03/07	I give you credit for working on your boat in the heat we've been having... I've given up and am waiting for cooler weather (I'll take anything in the 80's at this point!). To answer your questions, I'm going with gel, an no- I haven't cleaned up the dust yet. I thought I did, but then it reappeared. I think it will be a never ending battle, even years after the baot is complete.
sraab928	#20  Posted on 06/12/08 - 3:31 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 1282 Comments: 13 Joined: 12/27/05	I actually gave up trying to work in this crazy heat and rearranged my work garage to fit her in. Took two days of work but I got it done. I say this from experience... you will be finding dust from your project forever! That stuff is relentless. Scott 1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8