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yes I made the 6 hour drive fornothing the guy is firm on his price and the main motor a yamaha 150 with 1650hrs. has not been run in 2 or 3 years. the kicker has a broken off twist throttle and the carb is so plugged with crap it wont start so i offered him $8000 and he declined so it was a waste of 13hours round trip and $150 in fuel. wouldnt have minded if he had been honest with me but thats not really nice to make a guy drive that far to find that.