Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: 1999 Outrage 17 III ??

Posted by johnbg on 07/01/14 - 6:31 PM
#1

I have a 1999 17' Outrage III. Can't find specs or manuals for this boat or even a listing for it.
Any thoughts or info would be appreciated.

Thanks

Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/01/14 - 8:56 PM
#2

That would be a 1996-1999 Outrage 17' II. There never was a III model.

http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...album_id=4

Here is the original Outrage 17' I model.
Not known as a I model in the begininng as they probably didn't know there would be a II in the future.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...album_id=3

Posted by johnbg on 07/23/14 - 2:05 PM
#3

The information label lists the model as 17 Outrage III.

Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/23/14 - 4:01 PM
#4

Can you be more specific then that?

What "Information Label"?
Who put it there?
Does the label have Boston Whaler on it?

Did you not look at the link I gave you above?
That is the information you seek no matter what the information label you have says.

I owned one of these models.
http://users.sisqtel.net/jkriz/Outrag...age17.html

If what you have doesn't look like the above, then it isn't a 1996-1999 Outrage 17'
If you are looking for a 17' Outrage III, you will never find it as I already mentioned above.

Do you have any photos of your boat?
And maybe a photo of the label you state it has?

Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/23/14 - 4:36 PM

Posted by draftsman on 07/24/14 - 6:42 AM
#5

Joe is correct, the 17OR only had 2 versions, the 19 had 3...

Posted by johnbg on 07/24/14 - 9:38 AM
#6

Link to pic of label below.

http://flic.kr/p/oq1GpU

Edited by Phil T on 07/25/14 - 9:02 AM

Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/24/14 - 11:34 AM
#7

That is odd.
Maybe a misprint of "Capacity Plates".
http://www.whalercentral.com/download...p?cat_id=4

I have only seen the Outrage II in print once in one catalog.
I cannot however find that print again to even prove there was an Outrage II.
My capacity plate on my Outrage 17' II on read "17 Outrage" if I remember correctly.

As draftsman mentions, there was never a Outrage 17' III model even though your Capacity Plate says that.

1990-1995 Outrage 17' I (Classic hull)
1996-1999 Outrage 17' II (Accutrack hull)
There were no other Outrage 17's made.

Anyone have a photo of their capacity plate for the 1996-1999 Outrage 17' II ?
Please submit it to me so we can add that info.


Also note: In case you don't know who draftsman is, he worked for Whaler for years.

From the 1999 catalog:
17' Outrage
LOA = 17' 6"
Beam = 7'
Draft = 12"
Weight = 1700 lbs
Max hp = 150hp
Fuel Cap = 56 gal

Same info can be found in our "Whaler Models and Specifications" link. We take all our info directly from the genuine Boston Whaler catalogs.
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...album_id=4

Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/24/14 - 11:55 AM

Posted by lost sailor on 07/25/14 - 7:19 AM
#8

After reading this thread yesterday I went and checked my capacity plate.

http://www.whalercentral.com/download...p?cat_id=4

This link shows 17' boats with a capacity of 7 people whereas mine only says 6.

http://s908.photobucket.com/user/Nort...e.jpg.html

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac...yplate.jpg

I guess one of the only two downfalls I see with the Outrage I vs. the II; that and the almost twice the size fuel tank on the II.

(Moderator edit - IMG does not work on this site, please use [url] tags]

Edited by Phil T on 07/25/14 - 9:02 AM

Posted by Phil T on 07/25/14 - 9:16 AM
#9

The capacity plate in the photo does NOT look original.

On every plate I have seen, the background is bare aluminum
eg: [url]http://s908.photobucket.com/user/NorthEndGhost/media/capacityplate.jpg.html
[/url]

John's photo shows a white background.

I also see the NMMA logo is not the same.

I think this is a reproduced plate.

Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/26/14 - 11:57 AM
#10

Anyone have a photo of their capacity plate for the 1996-1999 Outrage 17' II ?
Please submit it to me so we can add that info.

Posted by Phil T on 07/26/14 - 4:51 PM
#11

I sent an (off-line) request for a photo to an owner I know.

Posted by Phil T on 07/28/14 - 7:25 AM
#12

I was WRONG. Wow.

I asked my long time whaler buddy, Dave S in NJ who owns a 1999 Outrage 17 (II or III?) to send me a photo of his capacity plate.

It is identical to the one John posted for his 1999. I will forward to Joe.


Posted by draftsman on 07/29/14 - 5:26 AM
#13

???? Must have happened after I left... What makes it a III? The newer 19III style console made it a II... Guess I'll call the factory and find out what gives... Great, yet another capacity plate...

Posted by draftsman on 07/29/14 - 5:40 AM
#14

Think I figured it out... That damn euro-transom... Grrrrrrrr...

Posted by masbama on 07/29/14 - 11:34 AM
#15

A euro transom on an Outrage 17? Pics please.

Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/29/14 - 12:32 PM
#16

I have never seen a Euro transom on a 1999 Outrage 17' either.
The catalogs do not show it as far as I can see.

Anyone have a photo?

Posted by Joe Kriz on 07/29/14 - 2:43 PM
#17

Here is a members 1999 Outrage 17'
It does NOT have a Euro transom.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=26112

He is the last one on this list.
http://www.whalercentral.com/viewpage...age_id=178
Dave's boat was built in November of 1998 as a 1999 model.
Anyone have one built in 1999?

This is one of the reasons why it is important to list your numbers.
johnbg doesn't give us much to go on with what he has.

Edited by Phil T on 07/29/14 - 5:01 PM

Posted by draftsman on 07/30/14 - 6:40 AM
#18

Ah well, was worth a shot... Talked to the factory and Chuck's stumped too, there is no record of a "III" and no one left to ask who were there at the time... Got one other person to ask, will try today.

Posted by masbama on 07/30/14 - 7:20 AM
#19

I have the 1999 brochure. There is no euro transom on the Outrage in the brochure.

Posted by JRP on 04/02/17 - 4:29 PM
#20

Old thread, but I am wondering if this mystery was ever solved?

Posted by Joe Kriz on 04/02/17 - 5:24 PM
#21

Not that I am aware.

1990-1995 Outrage 17' I Capacity Plate
http://www.whalercentral.com/images/p..._plate.jpg

1996-1999 Outrage 17' II Capacity Plate
http://www.whalercentral.com/images/p..._plate.jpg

Unknown Outrage 17' III version (less total lbs. persons, motor, gear then II above)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/2123124...711580746/
The original poster has never given us the HIN number to give us more info on this model.

Posted by JRP on 04/03/17 - 3:27 AM
#22

Thanks Joe. It is certainly a riddle.

Anybody else heard or seen anything new on this question about the existence of a 17 Outrage III model, circa 1999? Any spottings in the wild? Any new owners out there?

Posted by porthole2 on 04/03/17 - 8:09 AM
#23

One more 'different' plate for you
My 1997 Outrage II capacity plate.
Plate says 17' Outrage (no II)
Also has a different total capacity with same HP size outboard.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l17...fwtsvk.jpg

I only had one picture of my capacity plate and I only took it for the sale.

I'll now go out and take a good picture of my 1999 Outrage 21 for future reference.

Edited by porthole2 on 04/03/17 - 8:11 AM

Posted by JRP on 04/03/17 - 8:39 AM
#24

porthole2 wrote:
One more 'different' plate for you
My 1997 Outrage II capacity plate.
Plate says 17' Outrage (no II)
Also has a different total capacity with same HP size outboard.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l17...fwtsvk.jpg

I only had one picture of my capacity plate and I only took it for the sale.

I'll now go out and take a good picture of my 1999 Outrage 21 for future reference.


Duane, yours seems to be the same as the OP's 1999 "Outrage III" capacity plate, with the exception of the "III" after the model name "Outrage". Otherwise, all capacities listed are the same.

It sure seems like there were some revisions made to the calculated capacities of the 17 Outrage II model. And this business about a "III" variant is very odd. Of course, BW did not seem to identify the "II" model specifically, either -- at least not on the capacity plate.

Then again, for my 19 Outrage II, the capacity plate merely identifies the model as 19'.

Edited by JRP on 04/03/17 - 8:39 AM