Thread subject: Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos :: My 1974 Lo Pro Conversion

Posted by carter samford on 06/08/14 - 3:24 PM
#1

I think I got this photo thing figured out.
Posting pictures of my 1974 19' Outrage Lo Pro conversion. I have put a ton of work and money into it.
I know you 19' banana hull and Lo Pro fans will like it.

http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/csa...9/library/

(Edit: please follow guideline #1 on the front page and use the full 4 digit year)

Edited by Joe Kriz on 06/08/14 - 3:53 PM

Posted by Joe Kriz on 06/08/14 - 3:56 PM
#2

Really clean looking.

Posted by ritzyrags on 06/09/14 - 12:58 AM
#3

A very ingenious conversion.
I will let the photos sink in and will give my two bits at a later time.

Posted by wannabe on 06/09/14 - 4:43 AM
#4

Nice! Thanks for sharing.

Posted by bkg979 on 06/09/14 - 9:58 AM
#5

My goodness! What a good looking Outrage 19'. I just picked mine up (cap still on), and I can't wait to get started on it. Great work, Carter.

Your fellow South Texas Whaler fanatic,
Kiley


Posted by bricken on 06/09/14 - 11:17 AM
#6

looks great! I am finishing mine up as well. Took it out for the first time last Thursday evening and when I turned left the boat went right! Of course there was a big crowd for the maiden voyage. The motor would not go in reverse either! Got most of the kinks worked out and had fun on it this weekend. Will post pics soon. Bricekn

Posted by carter samford on 06/10/14 - 10:11 AM
#7

Thanks for the compliments guys.
Carter

Posted by dreilly on 06/13/14 - 10:06 AM
#8

That is pimp! Who needs a new boat when you can make an old one look like that?

Posted by carter samford on 06/14/14 - 1:18 PM
#9

Thanks Dreily!
I don't think I would call my boat pimp, but ok thanks for the compliment.
Do you still have the 18' Outrage on your personal page? It's very nice!
I have always wanted an 18' but just haven't run up on the right deal at the right time.
What part of Houston do you live in?

Posted by ritzyrags on 06/15/14 - 12:10 PM
#10

Carter,
I did enjoy looking at the photos of your low pro.
Is the console modified?
I was intrigued by the console bottom section joining the deck.
Nice Mahogany slats to the sections.

Posted by carter samford on 06/15/14 - 4:32 PM
#11

Thanks Ritzyrags,
As far as I know the console is all original other than the doors and steering wheel. I got that stuff from a 1986 Outrage 18. I don't see any evidence from the inside that it has had any glass work done to it. It attaches to the deck with some aluminum L brackets. The teak strips just back them up from the outside.

Posted by Silentpardner on 06/15/14 - 4:47 PM
#12

That's definitely one of the finest lo-pro conversions I have seen! Very nice workmanship :)

Posted by jvz on 06/16/14 - 6:52 AM
#13

Nice! Who shot the gelcoat?

Posted by cg_wilson2003 on 06/16/14 - 8:47 AM
#14

Really nice work. It turned out great.

Posted by carter samford on 06/16/14 - 10:58 AM
#15

Thanks again guys.
I don't really want to name any names here about the gelcoat. The guy is a Houston Galveston Whaler restoration guy and I see his name on Whaler Central sometimes. This guy did good on the inside and the webbing but he totally screwed the bottom up. He fiberglassed the top of the sump in and glassed up the drain plug in the bottom of the sump. When I got the boat the utility tunnel was full of water with all of the rigging submerged and ruined from water. I repaired all of that and had someone else redo the bottom. It turned out really nice now, pretty close to perfect. I mention this because I don't want this guy taking any credit for the way the boat turned out.

Posted by jvz on 06/16/14 - 2:48 PM
#16

Got it - when I saw the webbing i had a pretty good idea who it is/was. Those are sad, rookie mistakes..sorry you had to go through that.

Posted by Finnegan on 06/16/14 - 4:02 PM
#17

Just for informational purposes, the winged console as shown is not completely original, in spite of being very well done.

As mentioined, the louvered doors were not used on Whaler center consoles until the introduction of the flat front black vinyl covered console of 1977 or 1978.

The continuous instrument panel has been used to cover the old holes from the original two panels, with switched fuel gauge between them, as seen here:

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lgolt...1525005744

The console-to-boat mounting detail has also been changed, and is actually similar to the system used in the 1983 and later consoles. This "winged" console actaully has flanges molded directly into the console lower sides for mounting, as can barely be seen in this photo:

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lgolt...1368515251

The floor mounting flanges have been cut off in this particular console, and the original did not have any teak covering boards.

Posted by carter samford on 06/16/14 - 5:28 PM
#18

Yes Mr. Finnegan you have a perfect example to refer too. You are correct on all points. The console is original to the boat and it has a teak panel across the original holes that were in the console for gauges.
This is where the gauges are currently mounted. Yes the mounting flange on the console was removed and the teak strips installed to cover the cut edge. The console originally had the plywood doors just like those on your boat. I liked the louvered doors and the later six spoke steering wheel. This boat couldn't be any further from original but to me that makes it fun. Before all this work was done it would not have been cost effective to bring it from the shape it was in to factory original. I totally respect keeping things original, I have owned some classic cars and Corvettes so I understand in most cases it is important to keep a classic all original. Your boat is an incredible example of a classic.

Posted by slickfish on 08/09/14 - 12:08 PM
#19

Carter, a little fyi on your console it was choppied down two inches to continue giving it the low profile visual. Sorry to hear about water in the rigging tube. I was going to run my rigging the same way but decided to go straight back with it to the sump. I'm sure there where a few things that could have been done better but when you purchase an already customized whaler you purchase to the original owners design work. I know Darryl put alot of work into that bought before he sold it to you. I hope you're enjoying it. it's still looking good.

Edited by slickfish on 08/09/14 - 4:22 PM

Posted by cg_wilson2003 on 08/09/14 - 7:21 PM
#20

Carter, any chance you could post up some picture of the back of the boat where you boxed in splash well? Is there just the center drain for the deck or are there also ones on the side? Does it all drain to the center motor well?

Posted by carter samford on 08/10/14 - 12:28 PM
#21

Mr. Slickfish,
You apparently know me, who are you? La Porte is not that big of a place.
Do you still have a Lo pro?
I knew it was a matter of time before someone mentioned Daryl.
I am not going to bash Daryl but this boat still has problems. I have major repair plans for this winter. As far as it still looking good there is not much of the original boat that I bought still there. The bare hull console shell and the motor is about it. I am just making the best of it and having some fun this summer.
CG Wilson,
I would be happy to post some pictures but my boat is a good example of how NOT to rig your drains. This is one of the things I have planned for this winter.
Call email or text me and I will send you photos of what I have. I don't know what part of town you live in but you are welcome to come look at my boat also. I would be interested in any plans you have on this because I am still not sure what I am going to do here either.
Carter
281 799 3054

Posted by slickfish on 08/11/14 - 7:59 PM
#22

Carter I don't know you other than you bought that boat from Darryl. yes I have a 1976. What problems are you having that need attention? I'd like to know so hopefully I can prevent the same problems with mine if it's such an issue that mine needs the attention yours is needing. appreciate your help.

Posted by carter samford on 08/12/14 - 6:33 AM
#23

Slickfish,

The two major problems are with the deck drains and there is still issues with the utility tunnel. I would not rig the utility tunnel like this one was done. Going from the motor to the sump is the right way to do this.
There are a few things I want to do and undo to just make it right. You mentioned the console being cut. This was a mistake I feel like a monkey on a basketball when at the helm just because it is too low. I plan on glassing in and raising the console six or seven inches. Like I mentioned there are some other things that need to be addressed but these are the big items.
Why don't you give me a call? I would like to get with you and show you what I have and I would like to see your boat too.
Carter
281 799 3054