Whaler Central - Boston Whaler Boat Information and Photos

Posted by luciusvar on 10/27/13 - 12:26 AM

Hello,
I am French and I live in France. (near Paris)
I'm sorry for my English language is not in the top
I inherited a Montauk 17 feet of my grandfather.
There is much work to be done to navigate.
it has never been registered in France as it sailed on a private lake.
the certificate of conformity has been lost and I'm looking for the method to have one.
I mailed in Boston France but I did not answer.
It is a 17 montauk 1985 according to the line of Montauk.
good day to you
(here in France it rains and a storm is expected for two days)

Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/27/13 - 11:00 AM

Hi luciusvar,

I am not sure what a certificate of conformity is in France.
Is that something like a title?

Maybe someone here that is more familiar with things in France can help you better.
If it is just a missing title, then your registration department may be able to help you get a new one.

Posted by Tom W Clark on 10/27/13 - 12:04 PM

I don't know how to acquire a certificate of conformity in France, but I suspect that whatever it takes, proving the boat's provenance is a starting point.

Contact Boston Whaler Customer Service with your Hull Identification Number (HIN) as well as the Stenciled Serial number.

They will be able to tell when the boat was made, what model it was and where it was shipped to when it left the factory.

Posted by kamie on 10/27/13 - 12:59 PM

a certificate of conformity should have come from Boston Whaler when the boat was new. Contact Customer Service and see if they can reissue one, you may have to work through a local dealer or possibly the dealer who originally got the boat.

Posted by Silentpardner on 10/27/13 - 2:27 PM

kamie wrote:
a certificate of conformity should have come from Boston Whaler when the boat was new. Contact Customer Service and see if they can reissue one, you may have to work through a local dealer or possibly the dealer who originally got the boat.

HUH?

The only "certificate of conformity" that I have ever heard of being issued with a Boston Whaler boat that I can think of would be the Hull Capacity Plate on the boat per ABYC standards. The A in that abbreviation is for AMERICAN, no French certification is issued. This vessel will need to be certified to meet this requirement for titling in Europe.

Edited by Silentpardner on 10/27/13 - 2:28 PM

Posted by Tom W Clark on 10/27/13 - 3:41 PM

Folks, it's a big world out there. America is just part of it and the not the only place Boston Whalers are sold and used. All Whalers sold in Europe with have their CE marks but because 1985 predates the European Union, as we know it now, I am not sure about the CoC of a 1985 Whaler.

Again, I would start with Boston Whaler Customer Service.

Posted by kamie on 10/27/13 - 7:01 PM

Silentpardner wrote:

A french certification would have been issued for any hull imported into France. A CoC is simply a statement by the manufacture that the boat, plane whatever they are importing and selling meets all current regulations. ABCY standards mean nothing outside the US, and as Tom pointed out, Boston Whalers are sold all over the world, in France there are 10 Boston Whaler dealers.

Posted by ritzyrags on 10/27/13 - 8:09 PM

Mais alors Lucius

You already have your answer in the posts above.
And further to this..
Post here your stencil number and also your metal tag complete number in your next message.
This should help the wheels to get rolling toward your goal.
D'accord?

Posted by Joe Kriz on 10/27/13 - 10:23 PM

#10

Serge,

He has added his boat info in his profile. Click on his name to bring up his profile.

It is indeed a 1985 year model.
I have also added his boat to the Montauk list.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17

Posted by luciusvar on 10/28/13 - 1:25 AM

#11

hello all of you
thank you for your answers and I think I need to contact BOSTON USA for the certificate of conformity.
It's just a paper translated into several languages saying that my boston complies with regulations.
I will put pictures of my HIN, and boat that you see a little what to expect as this job on hull

http://www.pccreation.net/dm/photos/2...092100.JPG

http://www.pccreation.net/dm/photos/2...092141.JPG

http://www.pccreation.net/dm/photos/2...092257.JPG

(Here the storm rages)

Edited by Tom W Clark on 10/28/13 - 7:30 AM

Posted by Petrus on 10/28/13 - 11:27 AM

#13

Looks like you have some work to do. But it is a great boat that you will like a lot.
I'm glad we don't need any certificates or registrations here in Sweden for smaller boats.
How's the storm going in France? It should have reached south of Sweden now. Still waiting for it to move more north where I live. But still very calm.

Posted by luciusvar on 10/28/13 - 9:47 PM

#14

Binkie wrote:
Looking at the pictures, I see you have some work to do. Do you have the center console for the boat?

I ve got it and the original center console, .... seat, i've got all originals accessories for this hull.

Edited by luciusvar on 10/28/13 - 9:48 PM

Posted by luciusvar on 10/28/13 - 10:10 PM

#15

Petrus wrote:
Looks like you have some work to do. But it is a great boat that you will like a lot.
I'm glad we don't need any certificates or registrations here in Sweden for smaller boats.
How's the storm going in France? It should have reached south of Sweden now. Still waiting for it to move more north where I live. But still very calm.

yesterday the storm did not do too much damage here, Ile de France, just winds 140 see 150 km / h, a little rain. she calmed down at night.
I think she must be in Sweden and Norway now, good luck northerners

regarding my Montauk 17, I had an email from Chuck Bennett from Boston Whaler USA. He can do nothing for me and I am very disappointed. My boat does not have CE certification for non abligatoire boat built before 1995 or 1999. But I need a "certificate of tonnage and construction according to the model type", this is just what is lacking for the paper to register in France.
So here I am back at the starting point, "How have the certificate?"
otherwise I'd have to destroy the boat that I inherited from my grandfather.
ah the French administration and administrative complications !!!!

Posted by Silentpardner on 10/29/13 - 8:19 AM

#16

That is exactly what I suspected would happen, but don't give up yet! You will need to find out which ministry in France issues this certification and apply. The Montauk 17 is listed in their certification of models.

I had a co-worker and friend at Rhone-Poulenc that purchased a Whaler while on exchange to our site in Texas years ago, (in the mid-80's), then returned to France with it after about 6 months. I remember when he came back to Texas a few years later, he described the administrative process as being difficult, but he was successful in getting registration.

Once you find out which of the administrations, (ministries), that issues the certification, you should be able to submit the paperwork you have on the model and year of the boat, along with a fee, to them for review. It is my understanding that the ministry has a list of boats that it will compare your information with, and the Boston Whaler boats are all on it and certifiable. Good Luck!

I am sorry but I lost contact with Ettienne many years ago, I wish I could refer you to him directly. I am sure he could help :( When he returned to Paris after his second exchange with our facility, we lost touch.

Edited by Silentpardner on 10/29/13 - 8:45 AM

Posted by luciusvar on 11/24/13 - 11:56 PM

#17

hello,
news of my administrative record for my 17 montauk ....
it appears that the boat manufactured before 1998 do not need a certificate of compliance and so I'll be able to register ....
It was an administrative battle but the fact is that it is set!

Good day everyone and thank you for your support, here it is 9:00 in the morning but I think you're sleeping!!

Edited by luciusvar on 11/24/13 - 11:56 PM