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2015 Montauk 170
InVision	#1  Posted on 05/07/17 - 4:56 PM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	She I have been burning hours & hours studying Boston Whalers. I really like the Montauk 17ft boat. Well I came across a very low hour 2015 Boston Whaler Montauk 170 in new condition. Looks sweet!! I was wondering what I would be missing in the new model vs the old Montauk 17. Besides the classical look. I have read that there is some more room on the Montauk 170 and that it rides considerably better in moderate to hard chop. Really looking for a boat that I would not have to fix often or restore. Just want to boat and fish. Any thoughts would be very much appreciated. Thank you, M
PurrSeaStance	#2  Posted on 05/07/17 - 8:22 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 18 Comments: 0 Joined: 11/18/14	I know the 170 (newer) hull is wider and dryer than the old 17. We love ours and think it's a very capable and fuel efficient tuna and yellow tail slayer. You can see some of our adventures (on it) if you visit YouTube and search on WetWillyBiz. Good luck in your search for the boat. Definitely have some one with experience take a survey before you sign on the line. Will Wishin I was fishin!
JRP	#3  Posted on 05/08/17 - 4:46 AM
Member Posts: 755 Comments: 2 Joined: 08/29/14	Based on what you have posted in other threads about how you plan to use this boat, the Montauk 170 seems like an almost perfect fit. A late-model in good condition should be easy to trailer, operate, and maintain. The Montauk 170 has portable fuel tanks (or optionally a larger non-portable tank, but still mounted on deck.) The tanks take up some of the limited deck space available on a boat this size. So owners often have to be creative when it comes to storage. Edited by JRP on 05/08/17 - 4:47 AM
InVision	#4  Posted on 05/08/17 - 5:18 AM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	Thanks for the reply. I am thinking a newer boat is also a better match. I guess one of the only issues on this newer boat would be the Mercury motor. I would be much happier with a newer Evinrude ETEC motor. The removable gas tanks would be a blessing. A bunch of marinas here are going to Ethanol gas which I hate. I was filling our previous 25ft boat by 6 gal tanks which was a huge PITA. I have seen most folks say you can't go by NADA for Boston Whalers for value. Is there a official or unofficial "Boston Whaler Price Guide"? Thanks, M
InVision	#5  Posted on 05/08/17 - 3:44 PM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	Can someone tell me what year the Boston Whaler Montauk 170 had an EFI 90HP motor? Thanks (fixed typo in Montauk for clarification) Edited by Joe Kriz on 05/08/17 - 4:05 PM
JRP	#6  Posted on 05/08/17 - 4:08 PM
Member Posts: 755 Comments: 2 Joined: 08/29/14	If the engine is the same year as the boat, then it's efi. The only question is whether it's the latest 2.1L 90hp Fourstroke, or the earlier engine (which I believe was 1.5L.) If it has the latest Merc 2.1L engine, then that's another reason to favor this candidate. I would vastly prefer the 2.1L Fourstroke over any other engine option.
InVision	#7  Posted on 05/08/17 - 4:09 PM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	JRP I owe you a adult beverage sometime !!! Thank you, M Edited by InVision on 05/08/17 - 4:23 PM
InVision	#8  Posted on 05/08/17 - 4:25 PM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	What would 2015 Boston Whaler Montauk 170 with 90hp 4-stoke Mercury with 30 hours on it be worth. All in brand new condition. Options are Bimini, Fishing Option, Live well Blue graphics and swing tongue no brake trailer? Just curious.... Thanks M
InVision	#9  Posted on 05/08/17 - 6:01 PM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	Also curious if I would want one with a front bow rail. Thanks
JRP	#10  Posted on 05/09/17 - 4:01 AM
Member Posts: 755 Comments: 2 Joined: 08/29/14	You can "build & price" a new 2017 Montauk 170 on the Boston Whaler website. This will give you a good idea of what the msrp is for a new Montauk 170 with the options you mentioned, and by extrapolation an idea of the value of the used 2015. Realizing that condition and wear and tear are more important than age when appraising a use boat. As for the bow rail, there is an element of personal preference to that. I like to have one, but some others prefer not to. They can be removed, and they can be added -- it is an oem part readily available from Whaler. Whaler now offers a "split" bow rail option, with a gap at the bow to make it easier to handle the anchor, and to board from the bow. The other advantage to the split bow rail for those ordering one, is that it can be much more easily (less $$) shipped since it is two smaller halves. Edited by JRP on 05/09/17 - 4:01 AM
Harpooner	#11  Posted on 05/11/17 - 6:09 AM
Member Posts: 19 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/29/17	InVision wrote: What would 2015 Boston Whaler Montauk 170 with 90hp 4-stoke Mercury with 30 hours on it be worth. All in brand new condition. Options are Bimini, Fishing Option, Live well Blue graphics and swing tongue no brake trailer? Just curious.... Thanks M It seems to me, that average depreciation is around $2000 per year. Take the MSRP and subtract $4,000 for your '15, and I think you'd be close. Maybe factor the price down a bit more since 1st year depreciation can be more than subsequent years.
InVision	#12  Posted on 05/11/17 - 6:11 AM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	Well I got to operate a new $33K 2017 Boston Whaler Montauk 170 for about a hour yesterday. Conditions: Winds were about 8-10 knots and the bay chop was 2 ft or less. The boat had a new 2.1L Mercury 4-stoke 90hp outboard. The boat required almost no engine tilt and I found my self porpoising a bunch at first. The ride was mostly dry except as expected turning with wind broadside. The boat ride was impressive for the small craft. This would be the smallest boat of the 10 or so that we have ever owned. Pros: good sturdy ride, plenty of power and high quality trim/fit. Good bay type fishing boat with Bimini folder down. Removable gas tanks. Deck layout felt big compared to other 17ft boats we have looked at. Cons: Smaller craft with virtually no storage, no trim gauge, crazy anchor light on console, Bimini straps which attach to middle of the console obstructing forward view, no motor drive indicator (F, N, R) on motor control, steering wheel seems like it needs a knob. We also found out that we would have to order with Trolling Motor Panel from factory as the option can not be added by dealer. That also deletes the front rail which I have mixed feelings about. Thank you, M
InVision	#13  Posted on 05/11/17 - 7:16 AM
Member Posts: 54 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/02/17	Harpooner wrote: It seems to me, that average depreciation is around $2000 per year. Take the MSRP and subtract $4,000 for your '15, and I think you'd be close. Maybe factor the price down a bit more since 1st year depreciation can be more than subsequent years. Thanks for your thoughts. Since the price is going up every year and the depreciation decreases every year it is hard to get your arms around how much a used Montauk 170 is worth. From my figures of pricing in the last 7 years (2010-2017) it appears that the 1st year is about ~$3800 and every year after it is ~ $1500 until it flattens out. Boat options also complicate the estimates. A 2015 Montauk (no options) costs $28400 or so new. A 2017 cost $30971 new. My estimate is the a 2015 is in the $25K ballpark depending on condition and options. At some point in good conditions they do not depreciate anymore. M
Mjfnet	#14  Posted on 05/12/17 - 7:46 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/07/15	I really like my 2015 Montauk 170. The 90 hp Mercury is impressive. Plenty of power and sips fuel. I use it mainly in Puget Sound for salmon fishing. I have equipment mine with a electric downrigger, rear fishing station I built from starboard, a 9.9 kicker for trolling, dual batteries and a Lowrance HDS7 and all fits well. The only thing I wish I had more of is storage but aftter using awhile I am able to optimize what I have an what I bring with me to make it work well. I also usually don't have many people on board usually just 2 of us. I would definitely buy it again if I had to do it over.