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Intro and Question on Recommended HP Montauk 17
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| saumon |
Posted on 09/04/14 - 7:16 PM
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Re: console height
I don't want to hijack the OP thread but does anybody know, by chance, the measurements of that updated console on the 2007 and newer Montauk 170?
I'm asking because the tall console on my 1991 Outrage 17 is right as it can be for driving while standing (I'm 6'2"). If the updated console on the Montauk 170 is about the same height, you'll like it.
For reference, here's the measurements on mine:
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data..._07921.jpg
Edited by saumon on 09/04/14 - 7:17 PM
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/04/14 - 7:21 PM
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I'm not worried about hijacking. All this info is helpful.
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 12:34 PM
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Finnegan wrote:
If you are looking at 170 Montauks, and unless you are 5'-6" or less, I would ONLY look at 2007 Montauk 170's and later. In 2007, faced with a lot of complaints, they GREATLY improved the height and design of the center console, realizing that the original 2003-2006 was way too low for most people. ....
Finnegan,
A follow-up question about the taller center consoles on the Montauk 170.... I take it this change was made for calendar year 2007, not model year 2007? The reason i ask, is that I am looking at an ad for a model year 2007 Montauk 170, and it has the shorter center console. This example was actually built in June 2006, based on the HIN (last four digits "F607").
Just trying to clarify the exact date of the taller center console on the Montauk 170....
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 12:59 PM
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If members give us more input, we can add that info to this list.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...cle_id=115
Here are the members with Montauk 170's
http://www.whalercentral.com/viewpage...age_id=173
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 1:23 PM
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In case it matters/helps for figuring out where the transition took place, the the ad for the MY2007 I saw with a shorter center console had HIN: BWCE0293F607
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 1:49 PM
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Here is a 2006 in the personal page section we have with BWCE3760E606
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=18064
Is that the shorter or taller console?
And another 2006 year model.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...er_id=6612
HIN not known to us.
Probably a good idea to start getting some photos of the 2 different consoles.
Below is a 2003 Montauk 170 so I assume it is the shorter none.
I believe all that really matters is the height to the center of the steering helm.
What is this height on both variations of Montauk 170 consoles?
Joe Kriz attached the following image:
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 1:57 PM
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i am by no means an expert, and it can be tricky to tell without good photos, but based on my recent studying of ads, those all look like the shorter consoles to me.
CORRECTION: The consoles in the linked boats look like the shorter version. The console in the photo Joe posted appears to be the taller version.
I grabbed a couple photos that show the difference, but I haven't figured out how to post them here yet?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 2:01 PM
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Photos are difficult to tell any difference.
How about anyone taking some measurements of the height of the center of the steering wheel.
That will tell us for sure and really the only measurement we need as the height of the steering wheel would either be too low for some if it was the shorter version.
Just put a link here to your photos.
Add measurements if you have them.
This goes for other members that own the Montauk 170 model.
What is the height of the center of the steering wheel on your Montauk 170?
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Wow, that photo is of a 2003 model unless they changed consoles? I guess measurements would be the best.
Here is skram's personal page of his 2003 Montauk 170
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=26617
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 2:11 PM
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I am going to take back my correction above. That photo shows the shorter console.
I just realized an easy way to tell the difference. The new taller console has tiered or faceted steps formed into the console where the wheel mounts to the console. Whereas the old console has just a one angled flat surface.
The tenth photo in this Craigslist ad for a 2014 Montauk 170 shows the console in profile, and the tiered facets nicely:
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bod/4642830005.html
Maybe someone with a photo hosting account can grab that photo and show it here?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 3:27 PM
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I do see a difference but not much. 2 or 3 inches.
I also see the angle of the wheel has changed. More towards vertical in the newer models.
Maybe we need 2 measurements.
1. To center of steering wheel
2. To top of steering wheel
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| Phil T |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 3:58 PM
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The model year change for 2008 contained a redesigned console that added 2". They also changed the RPS cushion and added 1".
In reviewing Whaler parts diagrams, I see the part # for the console changed for 2008 and the drawing is different.
For 2007 and earlier:
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/boat_grap...3141PM.pdf
For 2008 and later:
http://www.bostonwhaler.com/boat_grap...4249PM.pdf
The Whaler press release on the model year changes is no longer available on whaler.com.
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/05/14 - 4:55 PM
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Great info!
Sounds like the change to the taller console was made for Model Year 2008, with some of those boats probably arriving in mid-late-Calendar Year 2007. The drawing showing the changed console is date 1/23/07.
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| Whalerbob |
Posted on 09/07/14 - 10:25 AM
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I've never really looked at the newer Montauk but I'm sort of surprised the fuel capacity is only (2) six gallon tanks. I know my older 2 stroke 90 Yamaha (which is a very reliable engine BTW) is much less efficient than the newer 4 strokes but I'm regularly pushing the limits of my fuel capacity ((2) twelve gallon tanks on my Montauk 17) running around the Chesapeake, something to consider.
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| blacksmithdog |
Posted on 09/07/14 - 12:36 PM
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Whalerbob wrote:
I've never really looked at the newer Montauk but I'm sort of surprised the fuel capacity is only (2) six gallon tanks. I know my older 2 stroke 90 Yamaha (which is a very reliable engine BTW) is much less efficient than the newer 4 strokes but I'm regularly pushing the limits of my fuel capacity ((2) twelve gallon tanks on my Montauk 17) running around the Chesapeake, something to consider.
The goofy 2 - six gallon tank thing surprised me as well. I think most folks put that 24/25 gallon Moeller tank under the RPS. The 4 stroke 90 goes a long way on 24 gallons.
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/09/14 - 2:25 PM
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blacksmithdog wrote:
Whalerbob wrote:
I've never really looked at the newer Montauk but I'm sort of surprised the fuel capacity is only (2) six gallon tanks. I know my older 2 stroke 90 Yamaha (which is a very reliable engine BTW) is much less efficient than the newer 4 strokes but I'm regularly pushing the limits of my fuel capacity ((2) twelve gallon tanks on my Montauk 17) running around the Chesapeake, something to consider.
The goofy 2 - six gallon tank thing surprised me as well. I think most folks put that 24/25 gallon Moeller tank under the RPS. The 4 stroke 90 goes a long way on 24 gallons.
Is Moeller the preferred brand for larger aftermarket tanks? I saw some references to another brand that was all the rage but apparently has now fallen out of favor (and maybe gone out of business) due to ethanol issues. Should boats/engines that had these tanks be avoided?
Also, I have seen some aftermarket tanks by Tempo. How do they compare to Moeller?
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Posted on 09/10/14 - 2:31 AM
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I think your choices are pretty limited with regard to fuel tanks. Moeller makes a really nice 22 gallon white one specifically for the 150 and 170 Montauks that is unobtrusive. If you google "Moeller Boston Whaler" you'll come across it. I think the older red Moeller was 24 or 25 gallons.
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| Whalerbob |
Posted on 09/10/14 - 11:00 AM
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I have a pair of the Tempo 12 gallons in my Montauk, they fit well on the factory mats and have held up well. I like two tanks for several reasons but mainly because I have a 6hp kicker so I can leave them both hooked up on separate tanks/lines. Not sure if they'd fit in the 170 though.
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| JRP |
Posted on 09/10/14 - 11:12 AM
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Thanks blacksmithdog and whalerbob for the fuel tank feedback. Between the Tempo and the Moeller tanks, it sounds like there are some very good options out there for increasing fuel capacity over the stock 12 gallons (2x6 gallons). Just FYI, the white 22 gallon Moeller tank for Montauks is Product # 031626, in case anyone is searching.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/10/14 - 11:32 AM
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JRP wrote:
Thanks blacksmithdog and whalerbob for the fuel tank feedback. Between the Tempo and the Moeller tanks, it sounds like there are some very good options out there for increasing fuel capacity over the stock 12 gallons (2x6 gallons). Just FYI, the white 22 gallon Moeller tank for Montauks is Product # 031626, in case anyone is searching.
We have that info listed along with many more parts in our Parts Photo and Info section in the Photo Gallery menu. Take a look around.
http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...hoto_id=68
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| davco |
Posted on 12/25/15 - 9:08 AM
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My unmolested 1976 montauk 17' came with a 1976 evinrude 115 HP
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